Bogdan Pankevich devoted his life to a free, sovereign, and independent Ukrainian nation. He took his first steps on his calling when Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union. Mr. Pankevych was honorary consul of the Netherlands in Lviv. He is now a prominent politician of the Ukrainian Galician Party. Of course we discussed the dramatic situation in Ukraine due to the Russian aggression and invasion. We also talked about about Bogdan Pankevych ‘thirty years of hope’.